Linux Mint Debian LMDE Cinnamon

Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) is a desktop distribution that’s based on Debian. It’s from the same folks responsible for Linux Mint, which is based on Ubuntu Desktop.

The latest edition, Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 (LMDE 2), code-named Betsy, was released on April 10 (2015). Upgrading from LMDE 1 to 2 is not yet supported, but that should change soon. If you’re using Linux Mint 17, do not attempt to upgrade because the distributions are not compatible.

Installation images for the Cinnamon and MATE desktop environments were made available for download. This article offers a very cursory review of LMDE 2 Cinnamon.

Before we get going, here’s what the developers want you to be aware of (taken from the release notes of LMDE 2):

LMDE is less mainstream than Linux Mint, it has a much smaller user base, it is not compatible with PPAs, and it lacks a few features. That makes it a bit harder to use and harder to find help for, so it is not recommended for novice users.

LMDE is however slightly faster than Linux Mint and it runs newer packages. Life on the LMDE side can be exciting. There are no point releases in LMDE 2, except for bug fixes and security fixes base packages stay the same, but Mint and desktop components are updated continuously. When ready, newly developed features get directly into LMDE 2, whereas they are staged for inclusion on the next upcoming Linux Mint 17.x point release.

Consequently, Linux Mint users only run new features when a new point release comes out and they opt-in to upgrade to it. LMDE 2 users don’t have that choice, but they also don’t have to wait for new packages to mature and they usually get to run them first. It’s more risky, but more exciting.

The Installer: At a time when many Linux distributions are beginning to replace their custom-developed graphical installer with one based on the Calamares installer framework, LMDE’s devs are still using their own graphical installer that lacking many features.

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Though it works, it lacks a true automated disk partitioning mode, so installation of LMDE 2 will most likely require manual intervention with regards to disk partitioning. Aside from the timezone setup step shown in Figure 1, which is actually very nice, the best I’ve seen on any distribution’s graphical installer, the rest of the installer is nothing to write home about, especially compared to the graphical installer of Debian, or even that of Linux Mint.

Linux Mint Debian LMDE installer
Figure 1: Timezone step of the Linux Mint Debian installer

But like I said, it works, and I’ve actually used it to set up a dual-boot system between Windows 7 and the latest release. See Dual-boot Windows 7, Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 on a PC with UEFI firmware. Figure 2 shows the user account setup step. No extra security features, like home folder encryption, is supported. Just basic stuff.

Linux Mint Debian LMDE user account
Figure 1: User account setup during installation of Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 Cinnamon

This image shows the partitions created by the installer. Though they are auto-created, assigning a mount point to the root partition has to be done manually.

Linux Mint Debian LMDE disk partition
Figure 3: Disk partitioning step during the installation of Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 Cinnamon

And if you opt to use the expert mode, by clicking on the Expert mode button shown in Figure 3 (above), the list of cautionary messages is enough to scare most inexperienced users.

Linux Mint Debian advanced installer
Figure 4: Message after selecting the advanced option of disk partitioning during the installation of Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 Cinnamon

This just shows what happens if you forget to assign a mount point to the root partition before clicking on the Forward button.

Linux Mint Debian root mount point
Figure 3: What happens when you fail to set a mount point for the root partition during the installation of Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 Cinnamon

After a successful installation and reboot, welcome to GRUB, and to Linux Mint Debian Edition 2.

Linux Mint Debian LMDE GRUB
Figure 6: GRUB menu of Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 Cinnamon

The Desktop: LMDE 2 ships with Cinnamon 2.4.7. After a sudo apt-get upgrade, the desktop was upgraded to Cinnamon 2.4.8, which is the latest, stable version and exactly what you’ll get on Linux Mint, the other distribution that’s based on Ubuntu. Figure 7 shows a default Cinnamon desktop.

Linux Mint Debian LMDE Cinnamon
Figure 7: Default Cinnamon desktop of Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 Cinnamon showing the panel calendar

LMDE 2 Cinnamon does not just ship with the last Cinnamon desktop, it also ships with the latest of the most popular applications, like Firefox 37. And Chromium 41 is in the repository. However, the version of LibreOffice installed (4.3.3) is three revisions behind the latest version of LibreOffice Still. LibreOffice Still is the more stable build of the popular Office suite. It’s currently at version 4.3.6. The bleeding edge build, LibreOffice Fresh, which has more recent features, is at version 4.4.2.

Linux Mint Debian LMDE Cinnamon menu
Figure 8: Default Cinnamon desktop of Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 Cinnamon showing the application menu

One major issue I encountered is audio not working. That’s a first for a Linux distribution on this test machine. On the security front, the UFW firewall application is installed, but not enabled. And that’s the only security applications installed by default, which gives LMDE 2 the same security profile as Linux Mint. That security profile is really not very good, but can be improved by installing a few packages that’s in the repository.

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When querying the status of system services, there seems to be a typo in the output for ufw. Minor issue, but one that the developers need to be aware of.

$ sudo service ufw status
[FAILall is not running...failed.

$ sudo service ssh status
[FAIL] sshd is not running ... failed!

$ sudo service smbd status
[FAIL] smbd is not running ... failed

To sum, best to stick with the advice of the developers and use Linux Mint if you’re looking for a distribution that won’t give you too much headache. Because if the audio hardware failed to work, you’ll most likely have major issues with graphics hardware.

Resources: ISO installation images for 32- and 64-bit platforms of Linux Mint Debian 2 Cinnamon and MATE desktops are available for download from here. You may also read the Release Notes.

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  1. I agree with Mark T. But it can be a good idea to wait to 15 january. Then the real Pardus 2009.1 will be released:

    25 Dec – Beta
    8 Jan – RC
    15 Jan – Release

    If I want a easy install and user friendly linux dist it are Ubuntu, Linux Mint or Pardus for me.

      1. Update:

        I just had an email exchange with Onur Küçük, who I believe is the lead dev of Pardus, and here is what he had to say about the status of the 64-bit version of Pardus:

        Currently the 2XXX series is 32bit only. Work is going on the 64-bit version and a developer preview ISO will be made public soon. Probably the end user version will be made public towards middle of 2010.

        And here is what he had to say about the current version of Pardus:

        … the current version is 32-bit but we have kernel-pae series in our repos too, so we are not limited to 4GB memory limit.

  2. I just started using Pardus with the 2009.1 beta released in late December. So far it has worked nearly flawlessly. Install was easy. Nearly everything works out of the box.

    The upgrade to 2009.1 RC1 was flawless and didn’t even require a reboot.

    The repos are gradually filling up (152 games now) Networking runs fine for me except my hidden router which it can’t login to. I need to reenter my password, and try again. My public router (for everyone else in the house) connects fine.

    I still like Ubu though as it is the easiest and most reliable install for my broad array of computers. Mandria has improved. Fedora NEVER seems to install right for me, nor does Debian.

    Pardus is the closest in ease of install to Ubuntu I hae found so far.

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