Linux Mint 8 vs Ubuntu 9.10
January 16th, 2010 • Category: comparative reviews •
Even though it depends and it’s based on Ubuntu, the Mint team has been steadily and aggressively adding features and developing custom (graphical) administrative tools. Tools and features that you won’t find on any other distro derived from Ubuntu, and on Ubuntu itself.
The folks at the Mint lab claim that their distro is based on Debian and Ubuntu, but I disagree. Truth is, it is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian. What I’m saying is that Mint is not derived directly from Debian, only by proxy.
Ok, let’s get down to business already, and lets begin by looking at what they have in common.
What do they have in common?
- Both distros come in Live CD iso images. A Live CD-ed distro offer users the opportunity to test the operating system without first installing it on their computer. This is a very common practice in the Linux community, a practice pioneered by Knoppix (?). In addition to providing an option to boot into the Live mode, Ubuntu also gives you the option to install directly to disk without first booting into the Live mode. With Mint, however, you must first boot into the Live mode, unless you are doing an OEM installation.
- Installer and installation process – Ubuntu’s installation process, and, therefore, Mint’s, follow the same simple six-step drill (seven, depending on the options you choose). As Linux installers go, it’s nothing to write home about, but it does its job. The installer has no support for setting up LVM, RAID and full disk encryption (it is only capable of encrypting the home directory).

The installer on Ubuntu and Mint are the same
If you are trying to set up a dual-boot environment between Ubuntu and Mint, the installer will give you the option to import your documents and settings from the first operating system installed on the computer. It is not clear to me if this option is also available if you are trying to dual-boot between Ubuntu/Mint and any other operating system or if it is only available between Mint and Ubuntu.

The option to import user settings from an existing installation of Ubunut or Miint if you are trying to set up a dual-boot environment.
- Same package manager – Since Mint is based on Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is based on Debian, they both use the same package manager – Debian’s Advanced Packaging Tool (APT), with Synaptic as the graphical interface. Like other graphical package managers, Synaptic makes it easy for users of all skill levels to install/uninstall software on either operating system.
- Applications installed – The software packages installed by default are just about the same, and those in their package repositories are the same too.
Where Helena is better:
- Graphical firewall client – Like Ubuntu, Mint ships with ufw, Ubuntu’s uncomplicated firewall, running out of the box. To make it easier to configure ufw, Mint installs Gufw, the graphical interface to ufw, out of the box. While installing and configuring Gufw is a breeze, we give Mint some props for installing it by default.

Gufw in the enabled status
- Next generation menu – Whereas the Ubuntu desktop features the classic GNOME dropdown menu, Mint’s desktop has a variation of the kickoff-style menu – mintMenu. One really neat feature of mintMenu that makes it better than the Ubuntu menu, and, in fact, that of virtually other distros I’ve reviewed, is that it enables you to search for an application from the filter box, and if the application is not installed, offers you four options, one of which is to install the application (see all the options in the screenshot below).

Mint's mintMenu allows you to search for and install an application right from the menu, that is, if the application is not already installed.
Another neat feature of mintMenu is that by right-clicking on an application, it gives you the option to add it to the list of startup applications.
- Graphical administrative tools – Mint has more in-house-developed graphical administrative tools than Ubuntu. This list include mintInstall (the Software Manager), mintNanny, mintWelcome, and mintMenu. These are applications for which there are no equivalents on Ubuntu (ok, Ubuntu has Software Center, it’s own version of mintInstall, but …). I should point out that Mint’s graphical management tools are not as feature-rich as the ones you’ll find on Mandriva.
- Totem is the installed video player on both distros. On Ubuntu, Totem is not able to play encrypted video DVDs (most, if not all, commercial DVDs are encrypted). For that, you will need to install VLC media player. On Mint, Totem wil gladly play your commercial DVD videos.
- Software Manager – Aside from being able to install and manage applications by using Synaptic and the Linux command line, Ubuntu and Mint offer a third means of managing applications. On Mint, it is called Software Manager (mintInstall), and (Ubuntu) Software Center on Ubuntu. While they are identical, Ubuntu’s Software Center is a work in progress, lacking some of the features available on mintInstall (all software applications are works in progress, but mintInstall is further along the development path than Software Center).

Helena's mintInstall or Software Manager

Front page of Ubuntu's Software Center.













Bruce Wagner
One example of programs developed for Ubunutu which do NOT work with Mint: Remastersys
pazuzu
Since I like better KDE, I tried kubuntu 9.10, and I’m sorry to say that the plasma desktop crashed. Frequently. I’m using mint 8 KDE edition and I haven’t had any problem with it. It is superb, works like a charm.
And btw, Bruce, please specify examples of ubuntu software that doesn’t work in mint.
Ryan Peters
I would like to point out that since Linux Mint is almost exactly the same as Ubuntu, it has virtually perfect compatibility with Ubuntu applications (uses the same repositories, so why do you say it’s not fully compatible?)
Another thing I found lacking: When I installed Mint 8 in a VM the other day, there was a lock icon in the corner telling me of my available updates. Maybe you should check for that on a fresh install? So you can remove it as a plus for Ubuntu since Mint has it (and better).
Last comment: The USB Startup Disk Creator and Ubuntu One services can be installed with Synaptic (since this uses the Ubuntu repos), so if you want it, it isn’t hard at all to get. I still prefer Dropbox/Unetbootin, but hey the Ubuntu tools are useful as well (especially for persistent storage on the USB Startup Disk Creator application).
Yes, some things like themes in Mint are do-it-yourself, but it has just the right balance of usability and familiarity that Ubuntu doesn’t have for me to recommend it.
Hydra
Sorry Bruce, but you are wrong. Linux Mint will run all programs that run on Ubuntu with no exceptions. The problem is that Ubuntu will not run all programs made for Mint. Stop trying to pimp an alternative such as Super OS. Besides, Super OS is nothing more than a rip off of Ultimate Edition.
Bruce Wagner
Yeah… But… Linux Mint is no longer Ubuntu.
What I mean is… they have changed it so much, that some Ubuntu software will no longer work with Mint!
That’s a very very bad thing.
It needs to be 100% Ubuntu… and it’s NOT any more…
Instead of Linux Mint, I am not loving more… and recommending often… “Super Ubuntu” aka “Super OS” (see http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Super_OS )
finid
Sorry, Bruce. If Super OS is 100% Ubuntu, why not just use Ubuntu? I’ll not recommend Super OS to anyone.
Bruce Wagner
No…..
Maybe I wasn’t clear.
Super OS is 100% Ubuntu, plus all the media codecs you need.
Mint is NOT 100% Ubuntu. It does not run ALL applications written for Ubuntu!
Therefore, recommend Super OS (aka Super Ubuntu).
Do NOT recommend Linux Mint. People will have more and more problems with Mint due to its incompatibility with real Ubuntu.
Maxwell
I’ve recommended Linux Mint 8 sooooooo many times now that I’m starting to sound like a friggin parrot. So here goes: Linux Mint 8 rocks!
I wrote about my move from Ubuntu 9.10 here:
FROM UBUNTU TO LINUX MINT